“Never say never.” That’s the phrase Second Lady Usha Vance chose when asked whether another little one could be on the way, possibly making history with the first baby born to a sitting U.S. vice president.
The 39-year-old wife of Vice President J.D. Vance opened up in a new interview with Citizen McCain, the YouTube show hosted by Meghan McCain, about the ups, downs, and unexpected joys of motherhood. And the reality of managing family life alongside a high-powered legal career.
“We’ll See Where That Leads”
Usha and J.D. are already proud parents to three children: Ewan, 8, Vivek, 5, and Mirabel, 3. But during the interview, the second lady hinted that the Vance household might not be done growing.
“I just liked having the two kids so much that I think I ended up being the driver for three, which really surprised both of us,” she said with a smile. “And now we’re at three and I’m feeling pretty good about this… sometimes he thinks he might like to have a fourth, but we’ll see.”
The couple met and married after studying at Yale Law School, and while they always knew children were in their future, the number was undecided. Usha grew up with just one sibling, and J.D. primarily with his sister. “I thought maybe I would have two kids, and I would think I’m done, this is good,” she explained. But life had other plans.
From Law Clerk to Mom of Three
McCain, 40, surprised Vance during their conversation by revealing she was pregnant with her third child. Vance, visibly excited, offered heartfelt congratulations and reflected on the sibling dynamics in her own home.
“What I’ve really enjoyed about three kids is that it’s just enough for them to be kind of a pack,” she said. “The oldest will take care of the youngest. And the youngest is so motivated to be like the older two that she’s basically self-sufficient.”
Pregnancy, Anemia, and a Supreme Court Clerkship
Both McCain and Vance opened up about pregnancy challenges, with Usha sharing that she experienced anemia during all three of her pregnancies.
“It just makes you so tired, and you’re already kind of tired,” she said. “Especially when we were having our third child, I was completely exhausted because I had a trial right before.”
The exhaustion, she explained, turned out to be a sort of test run for parenting, helping her prepare mentally and emotionally for the journey ahead.
Her most grueling transition came after her first son, Ewan, was born, just seven weeks before she started a prestigious Supreme Court clerkship with Chief Justice John Roberts.
A Glimpse Into the Second Lady’s Life
While she keeps a low profile compared to her husband, Usha Vance’s reflections paint a portrait of resilience, wit, and warmth. She’s balancing motherhood, ambition, and a deep sense of purpose.
No vice president has ever had a baby while in office, but if Usha’s words are any hint, history could still be in the making.
